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 Post subject: A Fine Well Deserved
Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:58 am 
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Shaun Smith, Defensive End for the Kansas City Chiefs was recently fined $10,000 for ummm, well no better way to say it, for grabbing the package of offensive tackle Anthony Davis. The article I read said Shaun struck him, but if you watch the video below, you will realize, it was a grab.



I am really angry with Smith! Despite how well Smith has been playing, I want him off this team. especially if he continues to perform this way. This is not the first time this kind of charge has been levied against Smith either, the week before Alex Mack for the Browns accused Smith of doing the same thing.

In both instances, Smith caused the opposing team to receive unecessary roughness calls which helped the Chiefs win the game. Not as much in the 49ers game, but moreso in the Browns game.

Frankly, I do not want this on my team. This is Raiders style of play. The Raiders have been well known for doing these types of things in the past and they are my most hated team! I want my Chiefs to be able to win without resorting to this kind of nonsense. They are a good enough team.

Many people have said things like "All kinds of things happen in the pile." and "Whatever it takes to win." I do not subscribe this nonsense. You do not have to act like this to win football games.

It is my desire to see Shaun Smith on another team as soon as Tyson Jackson gets back. I doubt this is going to happen, so the next thing I can hope for is that Haley gets this knucklehead under control and quickly.

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I absolutely could NOT agree more with your assessment! We are better than that!

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Do i like the grabbing...NO., Do i want Haley to get it under control,Yes...... But get him off the the team, NO.
He has done more in 2 games than Jackson has done in 2 years. Jackson was a waste of a pick then and is still is.
I dont like it but i do agree with Bill Mass that it brings alittle nastyness to the defense. This defense has been a joke for 10 years now and its about time they showed some balls,no fun meant.

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 Post subject: Re: A Fine Well Deserved
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wolfpack wrote:
Do i like the grabbing...NO., Do i want Haley to get it under control,Yes...... But get him off the the team, NO.
He has done more in 2 games than Jackson has done in 2 years. Jackson was a waste of a pick then and is still is.
I dont like it but i do agree with Bill Mass that it brings alittle nastyness to the defense. This defense has been a joke for 10 years now and its about time they showed some balls,no fun meant.



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wolfpack wrote:
Do i like the grabbing...NO., Do i want Haley to get it under control,Yes...... But get him off the the team, NO.
He has done more in 2 games than Jackson has done in 2 years. Jackson was a waste of a pick then and is still is.
I dont like it but i do agree with Bill Mass that it brings alittle nastyness to the defense. This defense has been a joke for 10 years now and its about time they showed some balls,no fun meant.


I have to say that I don't know if he did grab anyone or not, the video that I've seen is inconclusive. I mean in a court of law there isn't enough evidence that anything happened. The first time could have been an excuse by the opposition because Smith beat him badly and he had to have an excuse. The second accusation was that he "tried" to grab him? In this case Smith has been convicted by circumstantial evidence. If there were times previous, other teams college or pro, it would have been an already known trademark of the guy. The SF guy, just like most of the people that commented on the video I've seen, was conditioned before hand to see something that "might" have been there.

If he did do the grabbing, it's something that needs to be handled. If he didn't the NFL needs to react to actual events not something that might have happened.

At the very best I'm skeptical. I need proof that would stand up in court, not the NFL court - it's being politically correct to a fault here.

I hope Indy finds out that they aren't as good as they think they might be on Sunday.


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 Post subject: Re: A Fine Well Deserved
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Semilogical wrote:
...I hope Indy finds out that they aren't as good as they think they might be on Sunday.


...On this you and I wholeheartedly agree. :thumb:

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wolfpack wrote:
Do i like the grabbing...NO., Do i want Haley to get it under control,Yes...... But get him off the the team, NO.
He has done more in 2 games than Jackson has done in 2 years. Jackson was a waste of a pick then and is still is.
I dont like it but i do agree with Bill Mass that it brings alittle nastyness to the defense. This defense has been a joke for 10 years now and its about time they showed some balls,no fun meant.


I am not so down on Jackson, everyone has said that it takes three years for a defensive lineman to come around in the NFL. I tend to agree. We are really starting to see some good stuff out of Dorsey and a lot of people were ready to dump him at the beginning of last season.

I think Jackson is a good player and will only get better. Smith is playing well too, and that can only mean good things for the Chiefs. I just want the man to play cleanly and fairly.

One thing Smith has done now that will likely rear it's ugly head this weekend. He is on the list of the officials as someone to watch. After all this publicity, they are going to be watching his every move. Additionally, I would expect to see an ejection in store for him if he tries this stuff this weekend. He will get a penalty if they even suspect he is doing the nasty.

When you add all of this up, his shenanigans have amounted to a liability this weekend. A liability that we didn't need going into this game. He needs to clean up his act! He will likely not be traded, so my desires mean nothing, but I do not want to see this nonsense on my team anymore!


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hayvern wrote:
wolfpack wrote:
Do i like the grabbing...NO., Do i want Haley to get it under control,Yes...... But get him off the the team, NO.
He has done more in 2 games than Jackson has done in 2 years. Jackson was a waste of a pick then and is still is.
I dont like it but i do agree with Bill Mass that it brings alittle nastyness to the defense. This defense has been a joke for 10 years now and its about time they showed some balls,no fun meant.


I am not so down on Jackson, everyone has said that it takes three years for a defensive lineman to come around in the NFL. I tend to agree. We are really starting to see some good stuff out of Dorsey and a lot of people were ready to dump him at the beginning of last season.

I think Jackson is a good player and will only get better. Smith is playing well too, and that can only mean good things for the Chiefs. I just want the man to play cleanly and fairly.

One thing Smith has done now that will likely rear it's ugly head this weekend. He is on the list of the officials as someone to watch. After all this publicity, they are going to be watching his every move. Additionally, I would expect to see an ejection in store for him if he tries this stuff this weekend. He will get a penalty if they even suspect he is doing the nasty.

When you add all of this up, his shenanigans have amounted to a liability this weekend. A liability that we didn't need going into this game. He needs to clean up his act! He will likely not be traded, so my desires mean nothing, but I do not want to see this nonsense on my team anymore!


Agreed, we all know is that all it takes is the mere accusation or appearance of impropriety to "convict", so to speak, a player of wrong doing on the field.

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